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		<title>By: Andrew in Rochester</title>
		<link>http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/a-bad-taste-in-the-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-24606</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew in Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a pretty fair assessment of everything.  But I can still pick it apart!

I thought there was a story in the Examiner a while back about Trembley getting extended but the Orioles waiting until the offseason?  Also I have certainly heard plenty of quotes and read plenty of stories about Trembley referencing the situation in a professional way.

Don&#039;t we all know exactly why they&#039;ve lost for 11 straight years?  Terrible personnel decisions and bad contracts and bad drafting and a horrendous overseas presence.  Is there some dark story to the underside of that that we don&#039;t know?  And doesn&#039;t everyone assume that the attendance issues are connected to the poor play?  We can sit here and talk about the uniforms or the whatever, but we sure filled OPACY in 1997, didn&#039;t we?  The attendance is connected to the performance.  There&#039;s no question in my mind.

There has been a ton of press about Matt Wieters.  They talked to Trembley, Schmuck wrote about it a lot, Roch wrote about it a lot, MacPhail came on during a game to talk about it.

Payroll issues, I will give you that.  We all deserve to know why the payroll is low but we&#039;re all putting money into MASN.   My opinion, however, is that right now we&#039;re slashing payroll to get rid of the overpriced veterans in order to bring in young talent that you can build around (see: Tejada &amp; Bedard trades, which must have slashed a good 15 million plus off the payroll this year), and of course we can&#039;t talk about this upcoming offseason until it happens.

And hey, like I said, I understand where you&#039;re coming from and I support you - but I&#039;m just sick of hearing bitching about press access.  I really am, because I am really, honestly, content with the amount of coverage I get right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a pretty fair assessment of everything.  But I can still pick it apart!</p>
<p>I thought there was a story in the Examiner a while back about Trembley getting extended but the Orioles waiting until the offseason?  Also I have certainly heard plenty of quotes and read plenty of stories about Trembley referencing the situation in a professional way.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t we all know exactly why they&#8217;ve lost for 11 straight years?  Terrible personnel decisions and bad contracts and bad drafting and a horrendous overseas presence.  Is there some dark story to the underside of that that we don&#8217;t know?  And doesn&#8217;t everyone assume that the attendance issues are connected to the poor play?  We can sit here and talk about the uniforms or the whatever, but we sure filled OPACY in 1997, didn&#8217;t we?  The attendance is connected to the performance.  There&#8217;s no question in my mind.</p>
<p>There has been a ton of press about Matt Wieters.  They talked to Trembley, Schmuck wrote about it a lot, Roch wrote about it a lot, MacPhail came on during a game to talk about it.</p>
<p>Payroll issues, I will give you that.  We all deserve to know why the payroll is low but we&#8217;re all putting money into MASN.   My opinion, however, is that right now we&#8217;re slashing payroll to get rid of the overpriced veterans in order to bring in young talent that you can build around (see: Tejada &amp; Bedard trades, which must have slashed a good 15 million plus off the payroll this year), and of course we can&#8217;t talk about this upcoming offseason until it happens.</p>
<p>And hey, like I said, I understand where you&#8217;re coming from and I support you &#8211; but I&#8217;m just sick of hearing bitching about press access.  I really am, because I am really, honestly, content with the amount of coverage I get right now.</p>
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		<title>By: df1570</title>
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		<dc:creator>df1570</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew...I DO have access. I could get a credential tonight.  Going there and sitting in the press box and watching the game has zero appeal to me, from the standpont of &quot;doing my job&quot;.  When Greg Bader told me (on March 28), &quot;I couldn&#039;t care less if I ever see you in the press box again&quot;, that was the un-invite I needed from him.  If the head PR guy tells the only local morning sports talk show host in town he doesn&#039;t care if he ever sees him in the stadium again, I think that pretty much cements THAT portion of the relationship, right?

The issue isn&#039;t access.  It&#039;s to what degree that access is provided.  And that&#039;s where you might not care, but you should care if you really wanted to know why the club has lost for 12 straight years or why the team&#039;s attendance is down or why the manager hasn&#039;t had his contract renewed yet or why they haven&#039;t retired Elrod&#039;s number or why they won&#039;t bring Matt Wieters up or why, why, why...

And you SHOULD care if, for instance, the team was making $30 million a year on their TV network but reducing their payroll by $25 million this year.  I&#039;m not very good at math - I&#039;m from Glen Burnie - but I think that&#039;s a swing of $55 million.

When do you see THOSE questions asked and/or pondered in The Sun or The Examiner or on WJFK or on MASN.  How about, never.  Never.  Never.  Never.  And never.  

I could submit my credential request, go to the game tonight, go in Trembley&#039;s office and ask, &quot;what&#039;s going on with your contract status?&quot; and he&#039;d bark about wanting to talk about the game and his players and then I&#039;d be escorted out by a PR assistant.

I could ask Andy MacPhail what sense it makes for the team to get $60 million from Comcast and then lower the payroll from $85 million to $60 million.  I COULD ask him that.  If he were allowed to speak with me, that is.  Here&#039;s a grown ass man who has been told he&#039;s not allowed to communicate with me.  Laughable, as John Turtoro said in &quot;The Big Lebowski&quot;.

I went to Owings Mills today and spent 90 minutes there talking to anyone and everyone I wanted to.  I asked any question I wanted, regardless of how &quot;tough&quot; it was.  And I learned more about the Ravens today than I&#039;ve learned from the Orioles in two years.

I get to pass that on to people who root for the Ravens.  That&#039;s where the value comes in, for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew&#8230;I DO have access. I could get a credential tonight.  Going there and sitting in the press box and watching the game has zero appeal to me, from the standpont of &#8220;doing my job&#8221;.  When Greg Bader told me (on March 28), &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t care less if I ever see you in the press box again&#8221;, that was the un-invite I needed from him.  If the head PR guy tells the only local morning sports talk show host in town he doesn&#8217;t care if he ever sees him in the stadium again, I think that pretty much cements THAT portion of the relationship, right?</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t access.  It&#8217;s to what degree that access is provided.  And that&#8217;s where you might not care, but you should care if you really wanted to know why the club has lost for 12 straight years or why the team&#8217;s attendance is down or why the manager hasn&#8217;t had his contract renewed yet or why they haven&#8217;t retired Elrod&#8217;s number or why they won&#8217;t bring Matt Wieters up or why, why, why&#8230;</p>
<p>And you SHOULD care if, for instance, the team was making $30 million a year on their TV network but reducing their payroll by $25 million this year.  I&#8217;m not very good at math &#8211; I&#8217;m from Glen Burnie &#8211; but I think that&#8217;s a swing of $55 million.</p>
<p>When do you see THOSE questions asked and/or pondered in The Sun or The Examiner or on WJFK or on MASN.  How about, never.  Never.  Never.  Never.  And never.  </p>
<p>I could submit my credential request, go to the game tonight, go in Trembley&#8217;s office and ask, &#8220;what&#8217;s going on with your contract status?&#8221; and he&#8217;d bark about wanting to talk about the game and his players and then I&#8217;d be escorted out by a PR assistant.</p>
<p>I could ask Andy MacPhail what sense it makes for the team to get $60 million from Comcast and then lower the payroll from $85 million to $60 million.  I COULD ask him that.  If he were allowed to speak with me, that is.  Here&#8217;s a grown ass man who has been told he&#8217;s not allowed to communicate with me.  Laughable, as John Turtoro said in &#8220;The Big Lebowski&#8221;.</p>
<p>I went to Owings Mills today and spent 90 minutes there talking to anyone and everyone I wanted to.  I asked any question I wanted, regardless of how &#8220;tough&#8221; it was.  And I learned more about the Ravens today than I&#8217;ve learned from the Orioles in two years.</p>
<p>I get to pass that on to people who root for the Ravens.  That&#8217;s where the value comes in, for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew in Rochester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew in Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew, listen.  I hear you about the media bias the Orioles extend.  They won&#039;t put you in the same room as any player, you&#039;re not allowed to talk to anyone at the Orioles, which makes you basically, as Will Leitch would put it &quot;without access, favor, or discretion&quot;.  But I do not care.  I really don&#039;t.  Not even a little bit.  I really couldn&#039;t possibly care less who asks the questions to the Orioles or whether or not the Orioles want that question asked.  There&#039;s no part of me that cares about that.  Daniel Day Lewis cared for his son in There Will Be Blood more than I care about the Orioles media problems.  I&#039;m not a member of the media.  This problem doesn&#039;t affect me.  I still get all the information about the Orioles that I could possibly want from The Sun, The Examiner, WJFK, MASN, and the various blogs around discuss everything enough that it makes no difference whether or not someone who wants to ask the so-called &quot;Hardball&quot; questions asks them.  Because I don&#039;t care.

You care, because it&#039;s your job and you can&#039;t do it and besides your in a constant anger mode with the team (and rightfully so).  But me, I don&#039;t care, and regardless of how many times I hear you write about it, or Nestor complain about it...I still won&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew, listen.  I hear you about the media bias the Orioles extend.  They won&#8217;t put you in the same room as any player, you&#8217;re not allowed to talk to anyone at the Orioles, which makes you basically, as Will Leitch would put it &#8220;without access, favor, or discretion&#8221;.  But I do not care.  I really don&#8217;t.  Not even a little bit.  I really couldn&#8217;t possibly care less who asks the questions to the Orioles or whether or not the Orioles want that question asked.  There&#8217;s no part of me that cares about that.  Daniel Day Lewis cared for his son in There Will Be Blood more than I care about the Orioles media problems.  I&#8217;m not a member of the media.  This problem doesn&#8217;t affect me.  I still get all the information about the Orioles that I could possibly want from The Sun, The Examiner, WJFK, MASN, and the various blogs around discuss everything enough that it makes no difference whether or not someone who wants to ask the so-called &#8220;Hardball&#8221; questions asks them.  Because I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>You care, because it&#8217;s your job and you can&#8217;t do it and besides your in a constant anger mode with the team (and rightfully so).  But me, I don&#8217;t care, and regardless of how many times I hear you write about it, or Nestor complain about it&#8230;I still won&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomás</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomás</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny thing, according to ESPN with that suspended game win it actually extended the Orioles&#039; 1st place status in the AL East an extra day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny thing, according to ESPN with that suspended game win it actually extended the Orioles&#8217; 1st place status in the AL East an extra day.</p>
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		<title>By: neal s</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the extent I remember that suspended game at all -- and I really don&#039;t -- I remember it ending with the feeling of &quot;we don&#039;t have much of a shot of winning this.&quot; So, I think a split here is actually kind of a victory. We picked up a win, the loss cancelled it out. Onward and upward tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the extent I remember that suspended game at all &#8212; and I really don&#8217;t &#8212; I remember it ending with the feeling of &#8220;we don&#8217;t have much of a shot of winning this.&#8221; So, I think a split here is actually kind of a victory. We picked up a win, the loss cancelled it out. Onward and upward tomorrow.</p>
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