Comments on: Hernandez to Cincinnati http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/hernandez-to-cincinnati/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:57:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Marc "Fighting" Unger http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/hernandez-to-cincinnati/comment-page-1/#comment-26318 Marc "Fighting" Unger Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:26:12 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=2069#comment-26318 Great a utility guy no one cares about and a shortstop whose offensive numbers are comparable to... FROM BASEBALL REFERENCE.COM 1. Omar Vizquel (962) 2. Steve O'Neill (960) 3. Ivan DeJesus (958) 4. Rafael Ramirez (958) 5. Mickey Owen (955) 6. Jose Lind (954) 7. Tito Fuentes (952) 8. Jose Oquendo (949) 9. Jerry Remy (949) 10. Ron Hunt (948) He's Bert Campaneris without the speed. And before any of you say "Yeah but Bert Campaneris was an allstar on a World Series team!" let me remind you that offensive output at the shortstop position is a bit more important now than it was in, um 197FREAKING3! This just in- Orioles land starting pitcher Odalis Perez!! Great a utility guy no one cares about and a shortstop whose offensive numbers are comparable to…

FROM BASEBALL REFERENCE.COM

1. Omar Vizquel (962)
2. Steve O’Neill (960)
3. Ivan DeJesus (958)
4. Rafael Ramirez (958)
5. Mickey Owen (955)
6. Jose Lind (954)
7. Tito Fuentes (952)
8. Jose Oquendo (949)
9. Jerry Remy (949)
10. Ron Hunt (948)

He’s Bert Campaneris without the speed. And before any of you say “Yeah but Bert Campaneris was an allstar on a World Series team!” let me remind you that offensive output at the shortstop position is a bit more important now than it was in, um 197FREAKING3!

This just in- Orioles land starting pitcher Odalis Perez!!

]]> By: Joe the Guy http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/hernandez-to-cincinnati/comment-page-1/#comment-26310 Joe the Guy Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:25:41 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=2069#comment-26310 I think CC's fat ass, I mean, contract, was creating a logjam and the pitchers should hopefully start flowing like wine now I think CC’s fat ass, I mean, contract, was creating a logjam and the pitchers should hopefully start flowing like wine now

]]> By: Andrew in Rochester http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/hernandez-to-cincinnati/comment-page-1/#comment-26308 Andrew in Rochester Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:14:17 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=2069#comment-26308 I wouldn't knock Keith Law's assessments...he's right more often than he's wrong. He's a real smart dude, and really, think about it. We basically traded contracts, Hernandez for Freel...but we also got 2 prospects. The odds of getting 3 major league quality players for Ramon Hernandez is kind of low, just from a common sense point of view. I mean, you never know what player X will turn into, but I doubt either of these guys is anything better than Scott Moore or Mike Constanzo. Meanwhile, the Orioles seem to have inked Cesar Izturis to a deal, pending a physical. Probably 2 years. Great. It's been a good meeting so far, in my book. Now, about the pitching staff... I wouldn’t knock Keith Law’s assessments…he’s right more often than he’s wrong. He’s a real smart dude, and really, think about it. We basically traded contracts, Hernandez for Freel…but we also got 2 prospects. The odds of getting 3 major league quality players for Ramon Hernandez is kind of low, just from a common sense point of view. I mean, you never know what player X will turn into, but I doubt either of these guys is anything better than Scott Moore or Mike Constanzo.

Meanwhile, the Orioles seem to have inked Cesar Izturis to a deal, pending a physical. Probably 2 years. Great. It’s been a good meeting so far, in my book. Now, about the pitching staff…

]]> By: sci http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/hernandez-to-cincinnati/comment-page-1/#comment-26307 sci Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:55:01 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=2069#comment-26307 I see your point. I'm fine with the trade - I just don't think it's amazing. Regardless of what we think of Ramon, he's a decent trade commodity in this weak catching market. I'll take it though, like I said. I see your point. I’m fine with the trade – I just don’t think it’s amazing. Regardless of what we think of Ramon, he’s a decent trade commodity in this weak catching market. I’ll take it though, like I said.

]]> By: dan the man http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/hernandez-to-cincinnati/comment-page-1/#comment-26303 dan the man Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:57:44 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=2069#comment-26303 I dunno, sci, I don't think Ramon could have commanded any type of top prospect. Last year we couldn't pawn the guy off for a bag of balls. This off season we would have loved to get rid of him for a bag of balls, but instead we got a solid major leaguer and 2 young infielders, one of which, the second basemen, could be the bench infielder we've been digging through our system the past few years to find. I dunno, sci, I don’t think Ramon could have commanded any type of top prospect. Last year we couldn’t pawn the guy off for a bag of balls. This off season we would have loved to get rid of him for a bag of balls, but instead we got a solid major leaguer and 2 young infielders, one of which, the second basemen, could be the bench infielder we’ve been digging through our system the past few years to find.

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