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		<title>By: neal s</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;b&gt;love&lt;/b&gt; that non-traditional site idea. Logistics would obviously be a problem but I think you could solve that by making the break last one extra day. Great stuff, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <b>love</b> that non-traditional site idea. Logistics would obviously be a problem but I think you could solve that by making the break last one extra day. Great stuff, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomás</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomás</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m kind of late on it, but I just wanted to get this out there because I have been kinda busy of late to respond on them.

re: Scott Van Pelt
I&#039;m still glad I brought that up because without doing so I wouldn&#039;t of known about that awesome Miami story.  So hard to hate on a guy with a last name that Dutch.  Glad I can like him without reservations now.

re: Red Sox rivalry/Os fans invading National Park
I was one of the Os fans that cheered on the invasion in DC, but I don&#039;t really see it as contradictory.  The way the Bawlmer fans have failed to show up at OPACY who can blame the Boston/NYers coming down in droves, my problem is how they have acted towards the few and the proud Orioles fans that did show up.  If I were at the park in DC I would act respectful of the home team&#039;s fans, but still cheer (and be proud of drowning out the home team&#039;s) at the appropriate times.
Whoever mentioned the discrepancy between Fans of the Game and Fans of the Team was spot on, I love talking to/being around any Fan of the Game, even if they&#039;re from north of the George Washington Memorial Bridge.  

re: All-Star game
I only watched up until the 10th inning, I loves me my sleep.  But has anyone thought that the ASG might be a better representation of the game/exhibition of that year&#039;s best crop of players, if the game was NOT in a &quot;baseball city&quot;?  Baseball needs to revive itself in the States let alone abroad so why not have the game in large markets without a team like Portland, Omaha, and even the land of the Midnight Summer Sun - Alaska?  Why not shore up international markets - like Japan and Latin America - or even emerging ones like Australia, Curaçao, Holland, Sweden, South Africa, China/Taiwan?  I wouldn&#039;t mind the most &quot;popular&quot; (fan-wise) players getting in at that point so non-baseball fans have a better chance of recognizing names via teams AND the distance acts as a good balance against the crazy kool-aid fans voting in their entire favorite team because who would want half of their team having to readjust from jetlag after the ASG instead of just a couple?

Sorry for the long post.

WTB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m kind of late on it, but I just wanted to get this out there because I have been kinda busy of late to respond on them.</p>
<p>re: Scott Van Pelt<br />
I&#8217;m still glad I brought that up because without doing so I wouldn&#8217;t of known about that awesome Miami story.  So hard to hate on a guy with a last name that Dutch.  Glad I can like him without reservations now.</p>
<p>re: Red Sox rivalry/Os fans invading National Park<br />
I was one of the Os fans that cheered on the invasion in DC, but I don&#8217;t really see it as contradictory.  The way the Bawlmer fans have failed to show up at OPACY who can blame the Boston/NYers coming down in droves, my problem is how they have acted towards the few and the proud Orioles fans that did show up.  If I were at the park in DC I would act respectful of the home team&#8217;s fans, but still cheer (and be proud of drowning out the home team&#8217;s) at the appropriate times.<br />
Whoever mentioned the discrepancy between Fans of the Game and Fans of the Team was spot on, I love talking to/being around any Fan of the Game, even if they&#8217;re from north of the George Washington Memorial Bridge.  </p>
<p>re: All-Star game<br />
I only watched up until the 10th inning, I loves me my sleep.  But has anyone thought that the ASG might be a better representation of the game/exhibition of that year&#8217;s best crop of players, if the game was NOT in a &#8220;baseball city&#8221;?  Baseball needs to revive itself in the States let alone abroad so why not have the game in large markets without a team like Portland, Omaha, and even the land of the Midnight Summer Sun &#8211; Alaska?  Why not shore up international markets &#8211; like Japan and Latin America &#8211; or even emerging ones like Australia, Curaçao, Holland, Sweden, South Africa, China/Taiwan?  I wouldn&#8217;t mind the most &#8220;popular&#8221; (fan-wise) players getting in at that point so non-baseball fans have a better chance of recognizing names via teams AND the distance acts as a good balance against the crazy kool-aid fans voting in their entire favorite team because who would want half of their team having to readjust from jetlag after the ASG instead of just a couple?</p>
<p>Sorry for the long post.</p>
<p>WTB</p>
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		<title>By: dan the man</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Andy will look to make some minor deals.  Chad Bradford-type deals.  Things that go under the radar.  Payton or Ramon being the biggest names to go.  I don&#039;t see Andy going beyond trading those three guys.  Any actual blockbusters (Roberts, Sherrill, Huff I guess) I don&#039;t really see happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Andy will look to make some minor deals.  Chad Bradford-type deals.  Things that go under the radar.  Payton or Ramon being the biggest names to go.  I don&#8217;t see Andy going beyond trading those three guys.  Any actual blockbusters (Roberts, Sherrill, Huff I guess) I don&#8217;t really see happening.</p>
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		<title>By: neal s</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a fair point, of course. I definitely don&#039;t see this team as representative of the heights to which we ultimately aspire. My biggest concern is that we don&#039;t trade just because we feel like we have to, because to stand pat for now would violate The Rebuilding Plan. 

I see a lot of chatter out there about how we &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to trade Sherrill and we &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to trade Huff and...etc. Well, actually, no we don&#039;t. What we &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to do is make only the right deal at the right time, because a bad trade can cause serious, long-term problems. If this team was utterly terrible then I&#039;d say, yeah, what have we got to lose? But the fact is that we&#039;re about a year ahead of schedule (give or take) and to ignore that would be foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fair point, of course. I definitely don&#8217;t see this team as representative of the heights to which we ultimately aspire. My biggest concern is that we don&#8217;t trade just because we feel like we have to, because to stand pat for now would violate The Rebuilding Plan. </p>
<p>I see a lot of chatter out there about how we <i>have</i> to trade Sherrill and we <i>have</i> to trade Huff and&#8230;etc. Well, actually, no we don&#8217;t. What we <i>have</i> to do is make only the right deal at the right time, because a bad trade can cause serious, long-term problems. If this team was utterly terrible then I&#8217;d say, yeah, what have we got to lose? But the fact is that we&#8217;re about a year ahead of schedule (give or take) and to ignore that would be foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew out of Rochester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew out of Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I take exception to, Neal, is saying that MacPhail wants to blow up a &quot;good thing&quot; because that&#039;s &quot;the plan&quot;.  The Orioles are, as best as we can tell, a .500 team, which is certainly not bad, but that&#039;s not great, not even close.

It reminds me of, and I heard this from someone else recently, when the D-Rays were playing better than they ever had and so they traded Aubrey Huff to the Astros, saying something to the effect of &quot;If we are satisfied with .500, there&#039;s something very wrong here.  This is not the goal, and we aren&#039;t going to meet the goal this year, so we&#039;re blowing it up as best we can&quot;.

We have a good team, but not a great team, and we don&#039;t have a good thing here, not yet.  I&#039;d be careful not to confuse a good thing with a better thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I take exception to, Neal, is saying that MacPhail wants to blow up a &#8220;good thing&#8221; because that&#8217;s &#8220;the plan&#8221;.  The Orioles are, as best as we can tell, a .500 team, which is certainly not bad, but that&#8217;s not great, not even close.</p>
<p>It reminds me of, and I heard this from someone else recently, when the D-Rays were playing better than they ever had and so they traded Aubrey Huff to the Astros, saying something to the effect of &#8220;If we are satisfied with .500, there&#8217;s something very wrong here.  This is not the goal, and we aren&#8217;t going to meet the goal this year, so we&#8217;re blowing it up as best we can&#8221;.</p>
<p>We have a good team, but not a great team, and we don&#8217;t have a good thing here, not yet.  I&#8217;d be careful not to confuse a good thing with a better thing.</p>
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