Comments on: Orioles Embark on Final ’08 Road Trip

By: Andrew in Rochester

Andrew in Rochester — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:02:34 +0000

“Dandy Andy” (I swear to Christ the “People I Want to Kill” list starts with Jeff Maier and John Sterling) has been Terrible since the ASG. Really, really bad. Most think he didn’t get a solid offseason of prep in with the steroid stuff he went through, or he’s off the juice and not effective anymore, or he’s hurt, or he’s just old and on the verge of retirement like Mussina was last year. So yes, what happens when a rock meets a hard place? Pettitte has been God against us, but he’s been UnGod against everybody.

By: Greg

Greg — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:20:35 +0000

Pettite is God against the O’s… they should make short work of us.

By: Andrew in Rochester

Andrew in Rochester — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:05:13 +0000

Indeed. I didn’t even like throwing Burres out there this year. But, options were and are very limited. You sure do hope that Radhames Liz can build off his last outing and Olson can show us something, because if we can go into the winter saying, “Ok, we’ve got these three guys and these other possibilities (Patton, Albers, Waters, Penn) that we don’t know if they’re hurt or any good…let’s fill in the other 2 spots – which would be 2 and 3 in the rotation – via trades or free agency”.

It’d be nice to hear that the warehouse has a gameplan that doesn’t revolve around a couple guys we don’t have much hope for.

Oh, and final game ever at Yankee Stadium is Waters-Pettitte? Sweet Lord that could go any number of different ways.

By: sci

sci — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:30:50 +0000

And with that, you’ve defined just how much of a disaster this year has been pitching-wise. Our second-best starting pitcher is “not a prospect” and could, with luck, become a fifth starter. I agree with you totally, but wow.

If we are wise, Cabrera and Burres should not even be considerations for the rotation next year. I excuse Liz and Olson only because they’re younger, but Olson better conquer his defeated demeanor out there, or he’s through.

By: Andrew in Rochester

Andrew in Rochester — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:18:57 +0000

Let’s do this the fair and balanced way…with numbers!

Name ERA+ K BB IP WHIP

Cabrera 84 95 90 180 1.61
Waters 93 25 23 53 1.47
Olson 65 78 56 121 1.77
Burres 70 60 49 121 1.72
Liz 64 51 45 73 1.79

So, obviously, yes, Chris Waters has been easily our best pitcher besides Jeremy Guthrie this year. And yea, that means you probably do have to consider him for next year’s staff, certainly over Brian Burres…but don’t mistake Chris Waters for a good pitcher, or a guy who can develop into anything. He’s not a prospect. It doesn’t mean he can’t be serviceable as a fifth starter on a competitive team, it just means that that’s kind of unlikely.