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		<title>By: xi0</title>
		<link>http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2008/orioles-pink-sox-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-24706</link>
		<dc:creator>xi0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too negative, but we&#039;ll probably finish in last place. We have one quality starter...our bullpen is up and down.

Was this season a success? No. Was it more exciting to watch than in past years? Yes.

Cross your fingers for &#039;09</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too negative, but we&#8217;ll probably finish in last place. We have one quality starter&#8230;our bullpen is up and down.</p>
<p>Was this season a success? No. Was it more exciting to watch than in past years? Yes.</p>
<p>Cross your fingers for &#8217;09</p>
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		<title>By: neal s</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the magic of RSS, here&#039;s Dan&#039;s Lost Comment:

&lt;b&gt;dan the man&lt;/b&gt; Says:
Jones - Success.
Sherrill - Success.
Albers - Success.
Sarfate - Success.
Scott - Success.

Johnson - Success.
Huff - Success.
Guthrie - Success.
Roberts - Success.
Mora - Success.
Markakis - Success.

Tillman, Arrieta, Wieters, Matusz, Mickolio, Snyder, Reimold, Montanez - Success.

Andy MacPhail made trades, reaped the benefits, added depth, hired some good organizational guys, honored the WS teams, brought back the retro bird, put Baltimore on the jerseys, got rid of Jay Gibbons, came up with a real plan for this organization, and allowed Dave Trembley to change the ethos of this team by holding players accountable and preaching pride and respect. Success.

This year is a success because AA Bowie was a success. By the way, I’ll be there on Wednesday for Game 1 of the playoffs.

Sci is right, we didn’t find one god damned major league quality starter this year from AAA. And that sucks. But that doesn’t mean the season is a failure. It just means those players aren’t who we thought they were - yet. There’s still hope for Olson and Liz. But the real major league quality pitchers aren’t ready to be brought up yet. Andy knows now that this organization is in real bad shape. He’s had one full year now to evaluate some shit and you know he’s going to make the right moves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the magic of RSS, here&#8217;s Dan&#8217;s Lost Comment:</p>
<p><b>dan the man</b> Says:<br />
Jones &#8211; Success.<br />
Sherrill &#8211; Success.<br />
Albers &#8211; Success.<br />
Sarfate &#8211; Success.<br />
Scott &#8211; Success.</p>
<p>Johnson &#8211; Success.<br />
Huff &#8211; Success.<br />
Guthrie &#8211; Success.<br />
Roberts &#8211; Success.<br />
Mora &#8211; Success.<br />
Markakis &#8211; Success.</p>
<p>Tillman, Arrieta, Wieters, Matusz, Mickolio, Snyder, Reimold, Montanez &#8211; Success.</p>
<p>Andy MacPhail made trades, reaped the benefits, added depth, hired some good organizational guys, honored the WS teams, brought back the retro bird, put Baltimore on the jerseys, got rid of Jay Gibbons, came up with a real plan for this organization, and allowed Dave Trembley to change the ethos of this team by holding players accountable and preaching pride and respect. Success.</p>
<p>This year is a success because AA Bowie was a success. By the way, I’ll be there on Wednesday for Game 1 of the playoffs.</p>
<p>Sci is right, we didn’t find one god damned major league quality starter this year from AAA. And that sucks. But that doesn’t mean the season is a failure. It just means those players aren’t who we thought they were &#8211; yet. There’s still hope for Olson and Liz. But the real major league quality pitchers aren’t ready to be brought up yet. Andy knows now that this organization is in real bad shape. He’s had one full year now to evaluate some shit and you know he’s going to make the right moves.</p>
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		<title>By: sci</title>
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		<dc:creator>sci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess in some ways it was successful, but overall it&#039;s probably a no from me. We knew the team was going to be bad, and now they&#039;re showing it. They have played hard though, and a few hitters have really had great seasons. We know Jones is a keeper, as is DT, of course. So those are positives. 

My biggest problem with this year is that we have not discovered one legitimate major league starter. We knew Guthrie was good, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. But it&#039;s now questionable whether Cabrera is even a decent #5 starter, so that&#039;s a huge negative. And after that things have been just awful. Not a legit 4 or 5 in the bunch, in my opinion. Maybe, maybe Liz will be OK, but he hasn&#039;t shown it this year. So in that sense the year has been a complete failure. The minors are looking better for sure, but we&#039;re talking about the major league team, right?

And these swoons just kill the fan base. It&#039;s brutal. So until we eliminate these end-of-the-season swoons, we will not have a truly successful season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess in some ways it was successful, but overall it&#8217;s probably a no from me. We knew the team was going to be bad, and now they&#8217;re showing it. They have played hard though, and a few hitters have really had great seasons. We know Jones is a keeper, as is DT, of course. So those are positives. </p>
<p>My biggest problem with this year is that we have not discovered one legitimate major league starter. We knew Guthrie was good, so this isn&#8217;t a surprise. But it&#8217;s now questionable whether Cabrera is even a decent #5 starter, so that&#8217;s a huge negative. And after that things have been just awful. Not a legit 4 or 5 in the bunch, in my opinion. Maybe, maybe Liz will be OK, but he hasn&#8217;t shown it this year. So in that sense the year has been a complete failure. The minors are looking better for sure, but we&#8217;re talking about the major league team, right?</p>
<p>And these swoons just kill the fan base. It&#8217;s brutal. So until we eliminate these end-of-the-season swoons, we will not have a truly successful season.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Was this a successful season or not?&quot;

In some ways. I think for the minor leagues it was a great step forward. As an organization, I think it was productive. A success? If the Rays make the World Series and lose in game 7, is the Rays season a success? I think that&#039;s an argument I&#039;d have to make.

With that logic, no.. this season was not a success but I believe that we accomplished a lot with very little. We finally saw some games in HD. We signed some young talent from Venezuela to kickstart our international scouting efforts. The trades, don&#039;t have to really talk about those. The offense spark in the second half. 

Overall I was very happy with the Orioles for the first 2/3rds, I liked to see people don the black and orange apparel again, it was nice to see some people get excited about baseball again. I&#039;m pretty happy about the Orioles right now and for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was this a successful season or not?&#8221;</p>
<p>In some ways. I think for the minor leagues it was a great step forward. As an organization, I think it was productive. A success? If the Rays make the World Series and lose in game 7, is the Rays season a success? I think that&#8217;s an argument I&#8217;d have to make.</p>
<p>With that logic, no.. this season was not a success but I believe that we accomplished a lot with very little. We finally saw some games in HD. We signed some young talent from Venezuela to kickstart our international scouting efforts. The trades, don&#8217;t have to really talk about those. The offense spark in the second half. </p>
<p>Overall I was very happy with the Orioles for the first 2/3rds, I liked to see people don the black and orange apparel again, it was nice to see some people get excited about baseball again. I&#8217;m pretty happy about the Orioles right now and for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew in Rochester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew in Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Drew, after watching that debacle.  It never fails, Oriole baseball in September.  I said August and September were the key, and they shit a brick again.  And with this schedule, is there any chance they win even 8 games in September?

No.  Failure.  But I certainly liked what I saw for 66% of the season.  Pitching, pitching, pitching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Drew, after watching that debacle.  It never fails, Oriole baseball in September.  I said August and September were the key, and they shit a brick again.  And with this schedule, is there any chance they win even 8 games in September?</p>
<p>No.  Failure.  But I certainly liked what I saw for 66% of the season.  Pitching, pitching, pitching.</p>
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