Comments on: Hernandez Looks to Play Stopper http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2009/hernandez-looks-to-play-stopper/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:51:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andrew http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2009/hernandez-looks-to-play-stopper/comment-page-1/#comment-30562 Andrew Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:29:30 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=4211#comment-30562 I mean, hits allowed are a function of luck. They are - it's part pitcher, part hitter, part luck.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('30562','Andrew'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('30562','Andrew','I mean, hits allowed are a function of luck. They are - it\'s part pitcher, part hitter, part luck.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I mean, hits allowed are a function of luck. They are – it’s part pitcher, part hitter, part luck.
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]]> By: neal s http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2009/hernandez-looks-to-play-stopper/comment-page-1/#comment-30561 neal s Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:43:23 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=4211#comment-30561 <a href='#comment-30559' rel="nofollow">@Andrew</a> - Tell me you didn't just say "hits are a function of luck."<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('30561','neal s'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('30561','neal s','<a href=\'#comment-30559\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Andrew<\/a> - Tell me you didn\'t just say \"hits are a function of luck.\"'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Andrew – Tell me you didn’t just say “hits are a function of luck.”
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]]> By: Andrew http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2009/hernandez-looks-to-play-stopper/comment-page-1/#comment-30560 Andrew Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:23:29 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=4211#comment-30560 By the way, major props to Chris Tillman, who apparently reads my stuff and didn't like what I had to say. He responded to my quip about him struggling by throwing an incredibly good game last night: 7.2 innings of scoreless ball with just 100 pitches, 4 hits, 7 strikeouts, and 1 walk, which was in his final inning. This was the longest outing Tillman has had in the Orioles organization, and matched his career high. Roch is saying that Tillman is probably next if Berken falls apart.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('30560','Andrew'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('30560','Andrew','By the way, major props to Chris Tillman, who apparently reads my stuff and didn\'t like what I had to say. He responded to my quip about him struggling by throwing an incredibly good game last night: 7.2 innings of scoreless ball with just 100 pitches, 4 hits, 7 strikeouts, and 1 walk, which was in his final inning. This was the longest outing Tillman has had in the Orioles organization, and matched his career high.\r\n\r\nRoch is saying that Tillman is probably next if Berken falls apart.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> By the way, major props to Chris Tillman, who apparently reads my stuff and didn’t like what I had to say. He responded to my quip about him struggling by throwing an incredibly good game last night: 7.2 innings of scoreless ball with just 100 pitches, 4 hits, 7 strikeouts, and 1 walk, which was in his final inning. This was the longest outing Tillman has had in the Orioles organization, and matched his career high.

Roch is saying that Tillman is probably next if Berken falls apart.

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]]> By: Andrew http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2009/hernandez-looks-to-play-stopper/comment-page-1/#comment-30559 Andrew Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:18:36 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=4211#comment-30559 I did not see any parts of this game. I was out drinking and playing Pokemon Monopoly and watching Rocco's Modern Life. So there's sort of your disclaimer from me. About Hernandez: I don't expect him to be a starter long-term, but if you'll remember I said the same thing about Bergesen and I'm all too happy to be wrong about him (although I'm not sure how wrong I was). No offense, Dan, but I don't think there's anyway your saying those things about Hernandez if he struggled last night. Which he did not do. What he also did not do was really show me anything new. In his 4 starts, he has 10 Ks and 10 BBs in 23.1 IP. This is not impressive at all to me. For the time being at least, those huge K numbers from the minors have not translated to the big leagues. The walks have, though. Like I said, I'm totally open to him convincing me he can be in the starting rotation with the big boys, but so far he has not. Neal: Obviously the closer the WHIP to 1.00, the better, but the seamhead community (as far as I can tell...not that I want to speak for anyone) doesn't really care about WHIP because hits are a function of luck. For me, though, anything under 1.3 is pretty respectable, I guess. If you want to talk about BB/9, under 3.0 is pretty good to me.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('30559','Andrew'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('30559','Andrew','I did not see any parts of this game. I was out drinking and playing Pokemon Monopoly and watching Rocco\'s Modern Life. So there\'s sort of your disclaimer from me.\r\n\r\nAbout Hernandez: I don\'t expect him to be a starter long-term, but if you\'ll remember I said the same thing about Bergesen and I\'m all too happy to be wrong about him (although I\'m not sure how wrong I was). No offense, Dan, but I don\'t think there\'s anyway your saying those things about Hernandez if he struggled last night.\r\n\r\nWhich he did not do. What he also did not do was really show me anything new. In his 4 starts, he has 10 Ks and 10 BBs in 23.1 IP. This is not impressive at all to me. For the time being at least, those huge K numbers from the minors have not translated to the big leagues. The walks have, though.\r\n\r\nLike I said, I\'m totally open to him convincing me he can be in the starting rotation with the big boys, but so far he has not.\r\n\r\nNeal: Obviously the closer the WHIP to 1.00, the better, but the seamhead community (as far as I can tell...not that I want to speak for anyone) doesn\'t really care about WHIP because hits are a function of luck. For me, though, anything under 1.3 is pretty respectable, I guess. \r\n\r\nIf you want to talk about BB\/9, under 3.0 is pretty good to me.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I did not see any parts of this game. I was out drinking and playing Pokemon Monopoly and watching Rocco’s Modern Life. So there’s sort of your disclaimer from me.

About Hernandez: I don’t expect him to be a starter long-term, but if you’ll remember I said the same thing about Bergesen and I’m all too happy to be wrong about him (although I’m not sure how wrong I was). No offense, Dan, but I don’t think there’s anyway your saying those things about Hernandez if he struggled last night.

Which he did not do. What he also did not do was really show me anything new. In his 4 starts, he has 10 Ks and 10 BBs in 23.1 IP. This is not impressive at all to me. For the time being at least, those huge K numbers from the minors have not translated to the big leagues. The walks have, though.

Like I said, I’m totally open to him convincing me he can be in the starting rotation with the big boys, but so far he has not.

Neal: Obviously the closer the WHIP to 1.00, the better, but the seamhead community (as far as I can tell…not that I want to speak for anyone) doesn’t really care about WHIP because hits are a function of luck. For me, though, anything under 1.3 is pretty respectable, I guess.

If you want to talk about BB/9, under 3.0 is pretty good to me.

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]]> By: dan the man http://www.thelosscolumn.com/2009/hernandez-looks-to-play-stopper/comment-page-1/#comment-30558 dan the man Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:48:56 +0000 http://www.thelosscolumn.com/?p=4211#comment-30558 Anytime one of our young pitchers get a 'W', it's a good night. I'm more leaning towards Neal regarding Hernandez than I am towards Andrew's view of him, and no it's not just because of the solid performance tonight. The thing to like about Hernandez is his mound presence, his ability to not get rattled, and his ability to keep hitters off balance by throwing the change and curve. I think he still needs work on all of his pitches, but he throws strikes and it's an easy-looking 94MPH on that fastball. I see more of a major league pitcher in Dave than I do in Berken, who is a similarly-skilled pitcher but just gets behind in a lot of counts. Whatever the case, one thing is certain at least at the moment: those strikeouts that Hernandez posted in the minors are not translating in the least to the majors. But that's ok as long as he understands how to pitch, which it seems he does by using all his pitches. I like that DT sent him back out there and I also like that DT kept JJ in the game after giving up the run and allowing another base-runner after that. Johnson has moments like this and it's not a bad idea to let him work it out. I do sense that the All-Star break will be nice for the back end of our bullpen, though.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('30558','dan the man'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('30558','dan the man','Anytime one of our young pitchers get a \'W\', it\'s a good night.\r\n\r\nI\'m more leaning towards Neal regarding Hernandez than I am towards Andrew\'s view of him, and no it\'s not just because of the solid performance tonight. The thing to like about Hernandez is his mound presence, his ability to not get rattled, and his ability to keep hitters off balance by throwing the change and curve. I think he still needs work on all of his pitches, but he throws strikes and it\'s an easy-looking 94MPH on that fastball. I see more of a major league pitcher in Dave than I do in Berken, who is a similarly-skilled pitcher but just gets behind in a lot of counts.\r\n\r\nWhatever the case, one thing is certain at least at the moment: those strikeouts that Hernandez posted in the minors are not translating in the least to the majors. But that\'s ok as long as he understands how to pitch, which it seems he does by using all his pitches.\r\n\r\nI like that DT sent him back out there and I also like that DT kept JJ in the game after giving up the run and allowing another base-runner after that. Johnson has moments like this and it\'s not a bad idea to let him work it out. I do sense that the All-Star break will be nice for the back end of our bullpen, though.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Anytime one of our young pitchers get a ‘W’, it’s a good night.

I’m more leaning towards Neal regarding Hernandez than I am towards Andrew’s view of him, and no it’s not just because of the solid performance tonight. The thing to like about Hernandez is his mound presence, his ability to not get rattled, and his ability to keep hitters off balance by throwing the change and curve. I think he still needs work on all of his pitches, but he throws strikes and it’s an easy-looking 94MPH on that fastball. I see more of a major league pitcher in Dave than I do in Berken, who is a similarly-skilled pitcher but just gets behind in a lot of counts.

Whatever the case, one thing is certain at least at the moment: those strikeouts that Hernandez posted in the minors are not translating in the least to the majors. But that’s ok as long as he understands how to pitch, which it seems he does by using all his pitches.

I like that DT sent him back out there and I also like that DT kept JJ in the game after giving up the run and allowing another base-runner after that. Johnson has moments like this and it’s not a bad idea to let him work it out. I do sense that the All-Star break will be nice for the back end of our bullpen, though.

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