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		<title>By: df1570</title>
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		<dc:creator>df1570</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why sign Josh Fogg?

We&#039;re not trying to win now.

We&#039;re rebuilding.

Bring up one of the kids and let him throw.

No need to spend money on Josh Fogg.  He&#039;s not going to be here in three years when we&#039;re a contender.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26960&#039;,&#039;df1570&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26960&#039;,&#039;df1570&#039;,&#039;Why sign Josh Fogg?\r\n\r\nWe\&#039;re not trying to win now.\r\n\r\nWe\&#039;re rebuilding.\r\n\r\nBring up one of the kids and let him throw.\r\n\r\nNo need to spend money on Josh Fogg.  He\&#039;s not going to be here in three years when we\&#039;re a contender.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why sign Josh Fogg?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not trying to win now.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re rebuilding.</p>
<p>Bring up one of the kids and let him throw.</p>
<p>No need to spend money on Josh Fogg.  He&#8217;s not going to be here in three years when we&#8217;re a contender.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('26960','df1570'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26960','df1570','Why sign Josh Fogg?\r\n\r\nWe\'re not trying to win now.\r\n\r\nWe\'re rebuilding.\r\n\r\nBring up one of the kids and let him throw.\r\n\r\nNo need to spend money on Josh Fogg.  He\'s not going to be here in three years when we\'re a contender.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Andrew in Rochester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew in Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking News: The Orioles do something.  Drew Forrester against it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26955&#039;,&#039;Andrew in Rochester&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26955&#039;,&#039;Andrew in Rochester&#039;,&#039;Breaking News: The Orioles do something.  Drew Forrester against it.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking News: The Orioles do something.  Drew Forrester against it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('26955','Andrew in Rochester'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26955','Andrew in Rochester','Breaking News: The Orioles do something.  Drew Forrester against it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: dan the man</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops, I posted a bunch of Uehara thoughts in the Tex thread, but this is where people were talking about it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26954&#039;,&#039;dan the man&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26954&#039;,&#039;dan the man&#039;,&#039;Woops, I posted a bunch of Uehara thoughts in the Tex thread, but this is where people were talking about it.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops, I posted a bunch of Uehara thoughts in the Tex thread, but this is where people were talking about it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('26954','dan the man'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26954','dan the man','Woops, I posted a bunch of Uehara thoughts in the Tex thread, but this is where people were talking about it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: neal s</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True on both points, especially #2. 

The thing about Fogg -- or Byrd, or whoever -- is that he would likely be in the rotation &lt;i&gt;with&lt;/i&gt; Liz, not coming in to replace him. We still need at least one more veteran, preferably two. I&#039;m not advocating for Fogg (couldn&#039;t really care about him either way) I&#039;m just saying he&#039;s a legit option that hasn&#039;t been discussed.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26949&#039;,&#039;neal s&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26949&#039;,&#039;neal s&#039;,&#039;True on both points, especially #2. \r\n\r\nThe thing about Fogg -- or Byrd, or whoever -- is that he would likely be in the rotation &lt;i&gt;with&lt;\/i&gt; Liz, not coming in to replace him. We still need at least one more veteran, preferably two. I\&#039;m not advocating for Fogg (couldn\&#039;t really care about him either way) I\&#039;m just saying he\&#039;s a legit option that hasn\&#039;t been discussed.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True on both points, especially #2. </p>
<p>The thing about Fogg &#8212; or Byrd, or whoever &#8212; is that he would likely be in the rotation <i>with</i> Liz, not coming in to replace him. We still need at least one more veteran, preferably two. I&#8217;m not advocating for Fogg (couldn&#8217;t really care about him either way) I&#8217;m just saying he&#8217;s a legit option that hasn&#8217;t been discussed.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('26949','neal s'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26949','neal s','True on both points, especially #2. \r\n\r\nThe thing about Fogg -- or Byrd, or whoever -- is that he would likely be in the rotation &lt;i&gt;with&lt;\/i&gt; Liz, not coming in to replace him. We still need at least one more veteran, preferably two. I\'m not advocating for Fogg (couldn\'t really care about him either way) I\'m just saying he\'s a legit option that hasn\'t been discussed.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Andrew in Rochester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew in Rochester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-26946' rel="nofollow">@neal s</a> &#8211; two things, real quick:</p>
<p>1) Who cares if Josh Fogg is a .500 pitcher anywhere?  That wouldn&#8217;t necessarily make him better than Radhames Liz in 2009.  Wins != The Whole Story.</p>
<p>2) The real fundamental truth, heretofore avoided by teams like Seattle (with Silva), is that it&#8217;s hard to justify a big contract for a guy who might only be marginally better than a young player youâ€™ll control for six years in any economy.  I guess it&#8217;s easier if you don&#8217;t care about the return you&#8217;re getting on your money, and in this economy everyone cares (except the Steinbrenners)&#8230;but really you should never be spending 100 million dollars on something you can get for 2 million dollars.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('26948','Andrew in Rochester'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26948','Andrew in Rochester','&lt;a href=\'#comment-26946\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@neal s&lt;\/a&gt; - two things, real quick:\r\n\r\n1) Who cares if Josh Fogg is a .500 pitcher anywhere?  That wouldn\'t necessarily make him better than Radhames Liz in 2009.  Wins != The Whole Story.\r\n\r\n2) The real fundamental truth, heretofore avoided by teams like Seattle (with Silva), is that it\'s hard to justify a big contract for a guy who might only be marginally better than a young player you&acirc;€™ll control for six years in any economy.  I guess it\'s easier if you don\'t care about the return you\'re getting on your money, and in this economy everyone cares (except the Steinbrenners)...but really you should never be spending 100 million dollars on something you can get for 2 million dollars.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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